JFS & MSFS2020

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby Peter » Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:52 am

Travis wrote:So I have been testing this for a while, but still getting the same results with the release. I can eventually get it to scan and identify 208 models by using the additional folders text, but I am not sure why the simulator does not populate the aircraft in when I substitute someone. You can see Robert Dunn 2 is still red there in the aircraft list, and the usual restarting joinfs does not fix it. Hope we can get this compatible soon so we can fly with others. It seems like the new sim only allows you to see 6 others in close proximity and has other limitations. I am happy to help with whatever I can Peter. Thanks.
Here is a picture of some file structure, etc.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... JoinFS.jpg


Thanks, Travis. I'm actually really surprised to see the file layout is similar to FSX. Looking at the videos over the last few months I was under the impression that 2020 was a completely new simulator, but it appears to be a partial rewrite of FSX, which is actually good for plugins like JoinFS. As long as it still supports the older Simconnect interface then it shouldn't be too difficult to get this working.

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby fsatc » Fri Aug 21, 2020 6:53 pm

Yep, defieniely still SimConnect. We can connect to JFS via MSFS, however, the game then freezes. I know the new version of SimConnect in which they use is inside of The FlightEvents program (side multiplayer program from Microsoft) https://events-storage.flighttracker.te ... Client.zip

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby edakridge » Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:44 am

As long as it still supports the older Simconnect interface then it shouldn't be too difficult to get this working.

Peter, it is really good to see you back active. MSFS Simconnect seems to be broken right now. https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/3r ... ing/135870 I am not 100% sure, but I believe that this is a new version and not an FSX/P3D simconnect. I have been doing a little experimenting with the new sim (For $1.00) and have found that right now any external that uses simconnect causes massive FPS drop and terrible stutters. This is not too say that it will always be this way though. From what I've read the developers are aware of the problem and working on it.

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby Grumpy » Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:41 am

One of our members has found that he gets a pause every 3 seconds. This using JFS 1.4.34.
FS20 has it's aircraft in a weird place, so JFS has to be redirected.
If you put the needful directory in the "Additional Folders box, all is good.
We FSX users can see the FS20 users, but this is definitely one mirror!!

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby picnic » Thu Aug 27, 2020 8:06 am

That's interesting news Grumpy, when I managed to get joinFS to see a FS2020 aircraft so that I could complete the model matching process I still couldn't see any other aircraft in game or on LittleNavMap. Could you be more specific about one of the additional folders you added please?

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby Travis » Thu Aug 27, 2020 11:37 pm

Grumpy, your flying buddy should not have issues with frame drops after the update comes out sometime next week as shown here:
https://www.flightsimulator.com/august- ... nt-update/
I also get the massive frame drops(and lack of GPU usage). Otherwise I would connect to those that are still using FSX/P3D, etc. so they can join in on our community group flights as well. However, I can not see them.

It is hard for me to understand, but when you loaded the airplanes in the new sim to joinFS, I understand you put the folder in the list at the bottom, but is it like mine? Are you able to see other planes in MSF2020 from other older sims? I can not seem to get model matching/injection working. If this is accurate, can you please detail the steps you did. I, and the community I fly in would greatly appreciate your efforts. As well as Peter's efforts. Thanks.

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby Grumpy » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:31 am

Travis, at the time of writing, our group is experimenting with FS20 and FSX and JFS.
To effect model scanning, do the following, changing the drives directories to suit YOUR setup.
These go in the box labeled "Additional Folders" in the model scanning part of JFS

J:\Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020\Official
J:\Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020\Official\OneStore

Two people are FSX and two are FS20.
The FSX users can "see" the FS20 aircraft, although model matching is still an issue, but not serious. The FS20 people cannot see the FSX people, and our JFS entries are RED.
The FS20 people are in "all players Flight" mode

I suspect that once Peter gets his sticky little fingers on the latest version of Simconnect and the FS20 SDK, all these issues will disappear.
Peter, we are having elevation issues as well, One FSX is default scenery, I have the latest Africa LLC from Orbix, the FS20 people are in their native scenery.

Elevation correction brings the FS20 people to my height. nothing they do helps.

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby brendantdj » Thu Sep 03, 2020 7:10 pm

JFS doesn't even pick up my sim, have FSUIPC7 running and it's working fine with other software. SimConnect is working too as I have been flying on Vatsim today on fs2020

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby edakridge » Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:58 pm

I tried yesterday to run model matching with MSFS and was unsuccessful. Perhaps due to the fact that I moved MSFS from the default location to E: drive?

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Re: JFS & MSFS2020

Postby Travis » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:33 am

Current status(unless someone says otherwise):
JoinFS does NOT fully work in FS2020.
You can only run JoinFS to allow others to see you in older sims(with some stutters still), you will not see them.

What next?
We wait to see what Peter says.
Hopefully he starts working on it soon and can give us a timeline. It seems the desire to have a server outside of Microsoft's is wanted by a hand full of people for various reasons. Either cross platform or having a little bit more of a private server/setting for some events.


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